We are really into back packing, and most of the off the shelf Backpacks just don’t have it! My needs are basic. Light but durable, external frame, little if no bells and whistles (i.e. detachable day pack, compartmentalized, a ton of adjustable straps) My needs are simplistic: large volume interior, no outside pockets except for perhaps one, two or three, meshed outside pockets and/or a couple dasie chain gear loops, the ability to strap a tent to one side and a waffle bed pad on the other and the sleeping bag on the bottom.
Most off the shelf’ packs you see in the stores, just have way to much on them, which of course adds to the weight with useless compartments and to price with the labor involved in making those useless pockets.
I really think if there is nothing out there, this might be a possible business opportunity. But more importantly, I just need to carry a minimal amount, (we have it all worked out as to what we need and we don’t need a gazillion pockets or added features) comfortably and with ease of stowage are my priorities.
I’ve been to Kelty and most other brand name pack manufacturers, I’m looking for some info from those making packs to user needs, or making AT (Appalachian trail) Packs.
Much Thanks!
BeachBum, Thank you for that very interesting piece. We are definately not the kind of people that enjoy carrying cannon balls, and are fed up with the sales pitch mentality of our local outdoor retailer. I’ve used a sewing machine a few times, and love the feeling of doing things ourselves. This is a great idea! I’m still not sold on not needing a padded hip belt (love the ability to shift the load off shoulders for a bit) And I really need an external frame, it’s so much cooler, (I hate a sweaty backs, ewww) and I remember them being eaiser to put on and carry when they aren’t on your back. I also have a ton of perfect cannon balls that are piled up on the floor of our gear room. The last being REI Ultra lights (which are good) but too many pockets and useless straps and not external frame.
All really good points Beach! I actually might have to look for a frame, attatch my Ultralight to it, cut off the garbage, add a couple of stretchy mess thingies to the back and be done with it. I was just hoping someone else manufactured something near to what I wanted.
Other then finding someones used external frame pack on crags list, I haven’t seen any places were I can buy just the frame.
Willie, thanks, Rutland is about a 4 hour ride from here, (like they say in maine, you can’t get they ah from here. Or, If I were going they ah, I wouldn’t be starting from he ah.
I’ve got a lot of stuf, so I suppose, If I can find a good external, I could dust off the sewing machine and whip something up, but you guys know how we girls love to shop!
I lucky enough to have Ragged Mountian outfiters in my back yard, and they have tons of gear matterials and hardware. And then there is IME and their consignment basement. I guess it’s time to shoping!
I know what your saying and I have an article for you and a site that may have what you are looking for. I hope you take the time to read the article in full and check out the site. Here you go:
http://www.rayjardine.com/papers/cannonballs/index.htm
http://www.rayjardine.com/papers/why-sew/index.htm
http://www.rayjardine.com/ray-way/Backpack-Kit/index.htm
The last link is about the custom backpacks, you can put as many or little pockets, pouches, bells, and whistles.
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Well you can always just buy the padded hip belt separate. Thats not a big deal since they sell them. I wore mine out on an ext. frame pack I had and replaced it myself. You can always sew it on. Also, if you have a frame to the pack (which I believe you do, if not you can purchase just the frame as well) why cant you sew the pack to fit on the frame. All you would need is a grommet puncher to make the holes for the pins to secure it to your frame, right? If you look at all externals the fastening mechanism is usually the same, they are usually a pin and a ring, if you leave extra material on the pack you can leave room for a grommet. You can get the grommet gun at most hardware stores, definitely Home Depot.
I think he leaves the frame and hipbelt off because he doesnt expect you to be carrying more than 15-20lbs.
Well if you have the ultra-lite REI packs and there are too many pockets and straps why not cut them off, if you dont need them why keep them around…especially if its on a pack that you like.